Horror Movies To Watch: Horror Movie Double Feature. The Thing From Another World 1951. The Thing 1982

 

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Horror Movies To Watch: Horror Movie Double Feature. The Thing From Another World 1951. The Thing 1982

Podcast Notes & Highlights:

Let’s Talk A Couple Of Popular Horror Movie Franchises And My Definition Of Their Original Continuity. Mini-discussion of the continuity issues and road map to watch A Nightmare On Elm Street and Halloween movies. 

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Which horror movie original and its remake are we talking about tonight? Tonight’s movies are THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD followed by THE THING.

THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD 1951 -

When scientist Dr. Carrington  reports a UFO near his North Pole research base, the Air Force sends in a team under Capt. Patrick Hendry to investigate. What they find is a wrecked spaceship and a humanoid creature (James Arness) frozen in the ice. They bring their discovery back to the base, but Carrington and Hendry disagree over what to do with it. Meanwhile, the creature is accidentally thawed and begins wreaking havoc.

THE THING - In remote Antarctica, a group of American research scientists are disturbed at their base camp by a helicopter shooting at a sled dog. When they take in the dog, it brutally attacks both human beings and canines in the camp and they discover that the beast can assume the shape of its victims. A resourceful helicopter pilot (Kurt Russell) and the camp doctor (Richard Dysart) lead the camp crew in a desperate, gory battle against the vicious creature before it picks them all off, one by one.

Nick lives the jump scare in the 1951 original, David liked the scientists trying to reason with the Thing to comical effect, and John liked the ambiguous ending of the 1982 version.

Dave also recommends Midnight Mass on Netflix.

TRIVIA AND MOVIE FACTS:

Thing from another world 1951:

The skeleton crew at the South Pole Telescope station have a tradition every winter-over of watching this movie, and the other two adaptations on the very first night after the departure of the final plane of the season. 


Close-ups of "The Thing" were removed. It was felt that the make-up could not hold up to close scrutiny. However, the lack of close-ups gave the creature a more mysterious quality. 


James Arness or The Thing actor reportedly regarded his role as so embarrassing, that he didn't attend the premiere. 

According to Make-up Artist Lee Greenway, he took James Arness in his car to the house of Producer and co-Director Howard Hawks to show off the make up for The Thing. After months of frustration, Hawks told Greenway to put a Frankenstein (1931) type of headpiece on Arness. 


This film was based on the short story "Who Goes There?" by Don A. Stuart. The credits on this film list the author by his real name, the science fiction editor and writer John W. Campbell, Jr. 


Directors Ridley Scott, John Frankenheimer, Tobe Hooper, and John Carpenter all cited the movie as a key, influential film in their lives. Carpenter famously re-adapted the film in 1982. 


Horror movie actor Tom Atkins as stated in interviews he loves this movie.


Howard Hawks asked the U.S. Air Force for assistance in making the film. He was refused, because the top brass felt that such cooperation would compromise the U.S. government's official stance that U.F.O.s didn't exist. 


It is generally believed that Howard Hawks took over direction from Christian Nyby (his former editor) during production, and it has always been acknowledged by Nyby that Hawks was the guiding hand. However, in an interview, James Arness said that while Hawks spent a lot of time on the set, it was Nyby who actually directed the picture, not Hawks. Filmmaker John Carpenter, who directed the remake The Thing (1982), said in an interview that he asked Hawks that question in 1971; Hawks told him that he only gave Nyby some suggestions. Carpenter noted however that in later life, Hawks started to claim more and more credit for directing the film, and that the completed movie has much more of Hawks' trade marks than Nyby's later work.


The Thing 1982:


John Carpenter has stated that of all his films, this is his personal favorite. 


According to John Carpenter, he takes all his failed movies pretty hard, but the film's initial negative reception disappointed him the most. Not only was it a box-office bomb but critics panned its gory effects, tone, and characters. Vincent Canby, called it "too phony looking to be disgusting. It qualifies only as instant junk".

The opening title attempts to replicate the appearance of the original Howard Hawks film. To create the effect of the title, an animation cell with "The Thing" written on it was placed behind a smoke-filled fish tank which was covered with a plastic garbage bag. The bag was ignited, creating the effect of the title burning onto the screen. 


This is the first of John Carpenter's films which he did not score himself. The film's original choice of composer was Jerry Goldsmith, but he passed and Ennio Morricone composed a very low-key Carpenter-like score filled with brooding, menacing bass chords. Morricone's score would be dubiously nominated for a Razzie award for worst score. 


Unused music composed for this film was later used by Ennio Morricone in Quentin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight (2015). Ironically, Morricone's Thing score was nominated for a Razzie for worst score, while his score for Hateful Eight won him an Oscar. 


Nick Nolte turned down the role of MacReady, as did Jeff Bridges. Bill Lancaster wrote the script with Harrison Ford and Clint Eastwood in the lead role, and both men were considered. On top of this, a relatively unknown Fred Ward campaigned for the role. 


While discussing the character of MacReady, John Carpenter and Kurt Russell discussed having MacReady be a former Vietnam War helicopter pilot who was involved in some sort of tragedy and since felt disgraced by his service. Because of this, MacReady suffers from PTSD, alcoholism, and severe insomnia. This backstory ultimately did not make it into the finished film, though it explains why MacReady was awake to hear the dogs whining, why he isn't phased by the grotesque violence, and it also adds deeper context to the line "I'm a real light sleeper, Childs"



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